View Full Version : Trident Video Accelerator Blade 3D/ProMedia driver (WinME)
04-02-06, 09:58 PM
I've looked everywhere on the site and anywhere else for the Trident Video Accelerator Blade 3D/ProMedia driver for WinME. Sound was being played but wouldn't record/recognise voice. Then the
sound settings vanish in device manager. Can still hear sound, but voice test etc is registering nothing. Posting a few specs below as am unsure which are needed.
Would much appreciate being directed to where I can find this driver.
Video Adapter: Via Tech VT8361/VT8601
3D Accelerator: Trident Cyberblade-i7
CPU: Intel Celeron, 1000 MHz (10 x 100
Motherboard name: MSI MS-6368
Motherboard product: 601-686A
04-02-06, 11:09 PM
Did you look on line? I pasted what you need in google and found all kinds of places to get them. Plus, you are talking about a video driver, but asking about sound.
04-02-06, 11:48 PM
Obviously I'm not sure what I'm looking for. I found a link that said the right driver for Via Tech ac97 integrated sound card was the one I've listed, but I can't find the driver. Obviously if I'd been able to find it, I'd not have posted, as I'm far from stupid. Of course I've looked online - how else would I have found this forum? Lots links come up but are dead, or not enough detail for me to know if it is the right driver, or not for WinME.
05-02-06, 02:09 AM
The alliance between Trident video and Via ended several years ago. At one time from, say 1997 to 2000 at the latest Via and Trident joined together in a joint venture to produce video chips for PC's. Things did not work out business wise for whatever reason. Shortly after the alliance ended customers were left hanging with little or no support. Trident/Via graphics were put on quite a few Compaq branded computers at one time. Do you have a Compaq you are trying to work with? If so, whatever driver updates are "out there" have to come from HP/Compaq at this writing. If it is another branded OEM machine you might try their website. Since Via and Trident have not been associated for over 5 years now, driver updates for these dinosaurs are hard to find. I believe the word here is "obsolete".
Not the answer you wanted . . . By the way, Trident was a video chip only as far as I know, why your sound is not working may or may not be related.
Welcome to the Via Forum.
05-02-06, 04:10 AM
Many thanks for your welcoming message and information. It was interesting to find out what had happened regarding Via and Trident. That explains why 2 hours of searching didn't find me a driver!
I've been having unusually bad problems with present system for the last month, and some issues previously, plus discovered 5 leaking capacitors. Regarding the sound problem, I'd tried all I could to eliminate anything that wasn't pointing to the sound issues being due to hardware starting to fail ... but even in the last couple of days, whatever headset I use, sound's gone from okay to no microphone pick-up to absolutely nil! I'd been able to reinstall the correct driver after formatting tonight, but nothing except an error message I've never had before, saying the hardware could not play sound and to check with vendor.
Seen deterioration over the last week particularly, not just with the sound, so I've gone ahead and ordered the new system. Present one's a Tiny and 5 years old ... it was quite soon after receiving the machine that the Tiny support vanished in a puff of smoke. So I've had enough of obsolete things and no darn support; time to upgrade! After being on WinME for donkeys years, I'm lookind forward to using WinXP. Maybe I should donate this system to the natural history museum, in the dinosaur section? :-)
You really need a full overhaul(complete new system).
05-02-06, 04:08 PM
Definitely ..... looking forward to it arriving! :-)
05-02-06, 05:49 PM
XP is easy to use so you won't have many problems, what system are you buying?. If you need to install Windows XP on it let us know as the order is important.
I had a TIME computer years ago which did last a year so at least you got 5 out of your Tiny.
05-02-06, 08:25 PM
Thanks for your message and offering help with XP installation. Much appreciate it. Very sorry to hear about your Time machine. What system do you have now?
I'd have bought another Tiny if the company was still up and running, as the Tiny I had before was still great when I sold it and upgraded after 4 years. Been researching around for the last few weeks, while my machine's been groaning it's last, and the best my budget can allow, and the systems getting many more good than bad reviews have been Dell, so it's the Dimension 1100 that'll be sat here on the desk in a week or so. Looking forward to it!
Happy computering too.
05-02-06, 09:11 PM
My system now is one I built which is getting old now but stills runs good even runs Vista beta on it. The Time computer was my very first but I soon discovered it would not do what I wanted it to do which at the time was using music making software.
So after trying to update the hardware and had nothing but problems I decided to build my own and have done ever since.
My parter has a Dell is she is very happy with it.
05-02-06, 09:41 PM
plus discovered 5 leaking capacitors.
That would indicate the motherboard is on it's way out. A new system is the way to go. Post back and let us know what you get, even if you go Intel. We won't hit you or anything . . .
06-02-06, 05:37 AM
That's cool, to build your own! Definitely better to know exactly what's in your system and to really be able to tailor it for what you want. And better than paying for all kinds of gizmos that you may not want in a package. Another thing I liked about ordering with Dell was that there was lots of choice about that. That's great that your partner is happy with her Dell. Good to read! Which Dell has she got?
06-02-06, 05:52 AM
Thanks for your message, and that I won't get hit! Yes, am really glad I got on with ordering the new system ... had been holding on for as long as possible, but then two formats being needed in one evening was enough!
The new system is Celeron 325 2.53GHz, 512 RAM, 128mb USB memory key, 80gb IDE hard drive, 48x/32x dvd/cdrw, 17" CRT monitor, mouse and keyboard, various software and WinXP sp2, 1-year on-site, and I just realised there's 60 days of online XP/multimedia training in with that too. I'd read Microsoft were stopping providing support and security updates for Windows Me in June/July?, so it's worked out well to be upgrading now.
07-02-06, 08:17 PM
Hello mossgreen, sorry for sounding rude in my previous post. I think I must have been having a bad day or something! Anyway, the leaking capacitor issue has been around for some time. There was a factory that made a large percentage of all the capacitors used that turned out a fairly large bad batch some years ago. They are still turning up and causing headaches like yours in some older systems. Also, I am sure you will be happier with win xp than Me, as Me is a huge pain most of the time (at least in my experience). As was stated before, if you have any problems with the new system let us know.
07-02-06, 08:40 PM
Many thanks for your message. I really appreciate it.
That factory definitely caused me a headache! Grrrrr. But that's gone now, as am so glad I've got on and ordered the new system ... it arrives tomorrow evening! It'll be great to have a much faster computer, and to be rid of WinME ... know exactly what you mean about it ... always had some niggly issue or other going on with it. Had a quick look online about XP's features and am really looking forward to using it; and I hadn't realised the new system comes with online XP and multimedia training via Dell's education site. Going to be an XP whizzkid! That's really great to offer help with the new system. Many thanks.
07-02-06, 08:50 PM
Which Dell has she got?
She has a 8300 and still going strong although it needed at new AGP card which was replaced free of charge.
Let us know when you have the new one running.
07-02-06, 08:58 PM
Thanks for your message. Glad your partner's 8300 is going strong; that's great that they replaced the card for free! I'll definitely post when the new one's up and running.
10-02-06, 02:28 AM
Well, the new system was due to arrive Wednesday at the earliest at 5pm, and did, on the dot, just 4 days after ordering it. It's great, and was easy to setup. Great to have things running much faster, and things like the Dell Support window pop-up fixing stuff. Headset's working great, and spanish software runs very fast and smoothly.
Having spent a bit of time looking at all the software and programmes, and just starting to access the online XP training (really good), I'm realising how complicated XP installings etc could be! Bit worried about that side of things. The first night, the only error that totally seized the machine, to the point of having to switch it all off at the wall (not good), was after trying to install Kaspersky. And today something caused Sonic update manager to not run properly, but fixed that. Not sure if all the security programs might affect each other so things get through (McAfee came with the system; ZoneAlarm Pro, Adaware Pro, Spywareguard, Spybot, MS antispyware). I like Kaspersky best, and now MS antispyware too, but am wondering if any of the programs I'm running could have caused the gi-enormous seize-up, and, if I removed a certain one, Kaspersky would be okay?
I think I must have thought when I placed the order that I didn't need to click on resource CD or windows XP reinstallation CD, as there would be the normal backup CDs sent, as per each system previously. Have emailed, but may call briefly anyway, to ask if I can buy the two CDs after all. Have seen that it's possible to download all the drivers, and I've made the once-allowed backup of XP onto disk, but I'd rather know the proper long-lasting disks were the back-up. Sonic errors happened around the time of backup up XP, so I don't want to rely on my copy.
But, other than that, am really happy with the system! :-)
10-02-06, 02:50 AM
Just noticed that the air coming out of the back of the machine is quite hot ... worried, as this wasn't happening with the old machine until it was about 2-3 years old, and then I needed a second fan fitting to keep it cool. I realise that may be the solution, but bit concerned.
Edit: it's cooled down a bit, and maybe was the benchmarking stuff I was doing, but Sisoftware Sandra reports video bios as 3 years old (ialmnt5.sys); after a google it may be another obsolete video driver ... talk about coming full circle! Air out of the fan isn't as cool as it should be, even though it's settled down.
Would much appreciate advice.
10-02-06, 09:18 PM
You can always use software like PC Wizard to check the temps inside the case, etc.
Besides the heat how is the new system. When I first started using computers I used to have all sorts of software telling all sorts of faults but now I only use system info program and I use XP chkdsk once a week along with XP disc cleanup/defrag. All programs run as they should, so don't read too much into these fault finding programs, at least I don't.
10-02-06, 09:48 PM
Thanks for your message and suggestions. Appreciate it. It's just that it was really hot, and, at best, occasionally still too warm. Previous systems I owned didn't get this kind of problem until 3-4 years after purchase, so it's given me a bit of a fright to find this happening straight away, and I can't risk holding onto it and potentially extra money having to be spent returning it again and again. Got surgeries coming up too, and need to rely on the computer e.g. for main shopping etc just now. And just haven't the money to risk keeping a system I've really lost confidence in. Need a simple reliable machine, preferably with decent customer support. Is there anyone you'd recommend?
It was wonderful to use XP and that it was so fast. What a difference! But the 3-year-old video bios (who's drivers are already obsolete!), the overheating from day 1, and the abismal attitude of customer support ... just not worth it. Tech support's comments were just to run it hot as much as I like, that there is an automatic cut-out installed that will switch off the machine when it gets too hot ... I don't believe this, and have seen no reference anywhere to it ever, for the 1100 or any system, in 10 years. I couldn't believe that I was having to say to tech support that it was risking the system's hardware if I kept running the machine.
He asked which diagnostic I used, and went silent when I said SiSoftware Sandra ... rare occasion when he didn't argue! The other was when I mentioned the old parts. He didn't deny it. Unpleasant, and also customer care had no idea about any of the things I went on to mention later. I decided on the refund and needed to know the address to write to and if some kind of UK authorisation code was needed (similar to what the US site said). Just got on and sent 2 recorded delivery letters, to both the addresses on the site, as I have to put in writing about wanting a refund, within 7 days of delivery.
I'm dreading any more phone calls being needed. It cost £5 for the one earlier! The icing on the cake is the message the same tech guy just left tonight ... it's overheating because it's big, and computers are supposed to be hot!?! No help about how to sort out the refund, just a smart alec call. No more Dell for me ... can't have an unstable system with such abismal backup.
Using the old machine again, to ensure the new one doesn't run hot or get any marks on it before being collected, if and when Dell arrange this. At some point the tech guy had said they will definitely collect it and I'll receive a full refund, so it will hopefully go smoothly. I've since noticed on the site that they may deduct the delivery cost from the refund. Grrrr. Looking for another system, but going to do even more research this time!
11-02-06, 12:17 AM
Mossgreen, let's switch over to your other post so we don't have to go back and forth. THIS ONE (http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=6&threadid=70515&enterthread=y)for everyone that is following.
Some good replys there! Hope it gets sorted out soon! Chris.